By Josh RosenbergIn today's extremely high-priced used car market, many shoppers are looking for "older" models that have aged well as a way to save significant dollars.
Has the Chrysler 300 aged well? With reliability and durability being so crucial when buying an older vehicle, it's essential that prospective car buyers are informed about a model's mechanical history.
And in the case of the Chrysler 300, there have been many satisfied owners who have done little beyond standard maintenance. But there have also been owners who have run into some problems.
And by older, I'm referring to 300s that are generally 10+ years old, which would mean those from its first and second generations, produced for the 2005 - 2023 model years, with a primary focus on the earlier models when it comes to the second generation (2011 - 2023).
And with proper care and maintenance, history has shown that an older Chrysler 300 can last in the 150,000 to 200,000 mile range, with some doing much better. But the key is the "proper care and maintenance" part. Those are the ones you want to identify when buying an older 300.
So here, ...
- We'll do an overview of the two first Chrysler 300 generations, and while those include the 2005 - 2023 model years, the emphasis here will be on the earlier models when discussing the second generation.
- Then we'll list possible mechanical issues for these production runs that some owners have reported so they can be checked before buying one today.
- And then we'll summarize the overall pros and cons of an older 300 worth consideration for potential buyers.
But first, and very importantly ...
Things To Do When Considering An "Older" 300
Locate Lower Mileage Vehicles: They are certainly out there to be found with careful and patient shopping. Be willing to drive a distance if you have to.
Vehicle History and Maintenance: Ask for the vehicle history report (CarFax or AutoCheck) as well as documented maintenance and repair records. If not provided by the Dealer or private seller, it's usually best to move on.
Pre-Purchase Inspection: Have the vehicle independently inspected before making a final decision. This usually will cost in the $150-$200 range but is well worth it given the potentially thousands in savings over the long term.
And My #1 Price Tip: Please, always get online price quotes at auto sites such as CarsDirect.com and Edmunds.com (both, actually), whether looking for a new or used car. Competition among dealers for your business does amazing things to prices, and it's so easy. It really does make a difference.
And quickly, while we're at it, my #2 Tip is to always know the up-to-date trade-in value of your current car. You can get a quick and surprisingly accurate one at Edmund's Trade-In Quotes.
It's free and just takes a couple of minutes. I think what helps its accuracy is the inputs will include either your plate# or VIN# followed by many simple, but specific, yes/no questions. It really focuses in on the detail of the specific vehicle.
Second Generation Chrysler 300 (2011 - 2023)
The Chrysler 300 combines unique styling, athletic performance, and comfortable surroundings. It easily seats 5 passengers and is intended to appeal to those drivers looking for a little more edge in a vehicle than normally associated with family sedans.
The 300 was also the beneficiary of multiple improvements introduced with this generation. Although it may look very much the same, there were actually a host of significant changes.
This generation made impressive upgrades to feature availability and quality, cabin design, and ride comfort, as well as power. Its structure was stiffened and its suspension retuned for better handling and ride quality, while electronically-assisted steering had also been added.
Inside, the cabin became on par with most luxury sedans thanks to a big commitment to improved materials quality as well as additional sound insulation.
Engines:
And under the hood, the somewhat ho-hum 2.7-liter and 3.5-liter V6 engines of the previous generations were discontinued. Replacing them was a new, more powerful, more capable, and more fuel efficient 3.6-liter Pentastar V6 with an impressive output of 292 horsepower.
The EPA-estimated gas mileage for this engine is quite respectable given its size, coming in at 18 mpg city and 27 mpg highway.
And powering the 300C is a 5.7-liter Hemi V8 that delivers 363 horsepower and 394 lb-ft of torque (the only model also available with all-wheel-drive). Its fuel economy is 16 mpg city and 25 on the highway (with AWD: 15 city and 23 highway).
The SRT8 model, which was skipped in 2011 and brought back for 2012, is equipped with a 6.4-liter V8 that pumps out an enormous 470 horsepower and 470 lb-ft of torque. In performance tests, this SRT8 was timed from a standstill to 60 mph in a blazing 4.7 seconds. Its gas mileage comes in at 14 city and 23 highway.
Owners also noticed smoother ride quality as efforts were made to soften the ride, especially when equipped with larger wheels.
Trims:
This version was offered in four trims: base, Limited, 300C and 300C AWD.
Standard features on the already well-equipped 300 base model included full power accessories, an 8-way power driver seat with 4-way lumbar, cruise control, keyless entry/ignition, automatic dual-zone climate control, heated mirrors, a touchscreen infotainment display, a leather-wrapped steering wheel, an auto-dimming rearview mirror, automatic headlamps, 17-inch wheels and a 6-speaker audio system with satellite radio, a CD player, an iPod/USB audio interface, and an auxiliary audio jack.
Opting for a 300 Limited adds remote start, heated front seats, a rearview camera, a power front passenger seat, Bluetooth, 18-inch wheels, extra chrome exterior trim, foglamps and a 6-speaker Alpine audio system (Bluetooth and the Alpine system are optional on the base).
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There's an optional Luxury Group available on the Limited that includes leather upholstery (also a stand-alone option), heated and ventilated front seats, heated rear seats, driver memory settings, a power-adjustable steering wheel, a power rear sunshade, heated and cooled cupholders, power-adjustable pedals, a driver-side auto-dimming mirror, and LED interior lighting.
The top-of-the-line 300C comes standard with the V8 engine, everything in the Luxury Group, a navigation system, automatic wipers, upgraded brakes, and automatic high beams, while the 300C AWD chips in with all-wheel drive and 19-inch wheels.
2011 - 2023 Chrysler 300 Possible Mechanical Problems
Of course, not all 300s had these issues, but they were reported by some owners and should therefore be included in an inspecyion before buying one today:
Transmission issues: Some owners experienced problems with the automatic transmission, such as rough shifting, hesitation, or failure to engage gears properly, some requiring replacement.
Electrical problems: Electrical issues were reported by some owners, including malfunctions with various components such as power windows, door locks, infotainment systems, and dashboard lights.
Suspension problems: While some suspension components could wear out over time, leading to noises, vibrations, or poor ride quality, overall, improvements were made to the suspension system compared to the first generation.
Engine problems: While the engines in the second generation Chrysler 300 were generally reliable, some owners reported issues such as oil leaks, coolant leaks, or engine knocking. These problems could stem from various factors such as worn gaskets, faulty seals, or improper maintenance.
Brake issues: Some owners reported brake components wearing out faster than expected, leading to decreased braking performance, squealing noises, or brake pedal pulsation.
Cooling system failures: Problems with the cooling system, such as radiator leaks, water pump failures, or overheating issues, were reported by some owners.
Power steering problems: Some owners experienced issues with the power steering system, such as leaks, pump failure, or erratic steering assistance.
Carbon Buildup on Valves: Engine misfires (indicated by a check engine light) may be caused by carbon buildup on the valves.
HVAC Odor: A musty smell from the vents, especially after using the AC, can be due to moisture buildup on the evaporator core.
It's important to note that the severity and frequency of these problems varied vary among individual vehicles, and many second generation Chrysler 300 owners have had positive ownership experiences with few mechanical issues.
First Generation Chrysler 300 (2005 - 2010)
This generation 300 was re-introduced after a long absence and was pretty much an immediate hit with car buyers. Most were rear-wheel drive, but there were also all-wheel-drive versions of the Touring, Limited and 300C models.
Trims:
This 300 was available in LX, Touring, Limited, 300C and SRT8 trims. While some buyers were attracted to the relatively low price of the LX, it was really the Touring or Limited models that satisfied the most shoppers due to their more refined standard features, particularly for this class of vehicle.
The 300C and SRT8 models were more attractive to driving enthusiasts as they were more performance-oriented. While the SRT8 is the top-of-the-line in this regard, some 2009 300C's can be found with the Heritage Package that narrowed the gap by including a sport-tuned suspension and steering.
There's also a W.P. Chrysler Executive Series for rear-drive Touring and 300C models that drives on a six-inch longer wheelbase, allowing for extra rear-seat legroom.
Engines:
Powering the base 300 is a 178 horsepower 2.7-liter V6 engine coupled with a four-speed automatic transmission. The 300 Touring and Limited models come with a 3.5-liter V6, good for 250 horsepower, that's mated with a five-speed automatic.
The performance-oriented 300C and 300C SRT8 models are equipped with V8 engines and five-speed automatic transmissions. The V8 in the Chrysler 300C V8 generates 340 horsepower (359 hp in the 2009 model), while the SRT8's V8 produces a massive 425 horsepower.
Model Year Changes:
It also should be noted that in 2007, several new features were added as well as the W.P. Chrysler Executive Series, while the 2008 model saw a refreshed exterior and also added some new features.
The 2009 model, however, received a more significant update, including variable valve timing for additional power in the 300C, as well as a new active transfer case for all-wheel drive models that boosted both fuel efficiency and performance.
Several other important changes took place for the 2009 model year: A comfort-tuned suspension on Limited and 300C models was added for those looking for a softer ride, the optional Chrysler 300C Heritage Package was made available (the same sport-tuned suspension and tuning as the Dodge Charger R/T Daytona), and the SRT8 got a grille redesign, revised suspension tuning, and several additional standard features.
2005 - 2010 Chrysler 300 Possible Mechanical Problems
The first generation 300 also had mechanical problems reported by some owners which should therefore be included in a pre-purchase inspection:
Transmission issues: Some owners reported repairs or replacement with the automatic transmission, including rough shifting, hesitation, or failure to engage gears properly.
Suspension problems: Suspension components such as control arms, bushings, and shocks could wear out over time, leading to noises, vibrations, or poor ride quality.
Engine problems: While the enginess in the Chrysler 300 were generally robust, some owners reported issues such as oil leaks, coolant leaks, or engine knocking.
Brake issues: Brake components such as rotors, calipers, and brake pads may wear out faster than expected, leading to decreased braking performance, squealing noises, or brake pedal pulsation.
Cooling system failures: Some owners experienced problems with the cooling system, such as radiator leaks, water pump failures, or overheating issues.
Power steering problems: Issues with the power steering system, such as leaks, pump failure, or erratic steering assistance, were reported by some owners.
TIPM Electrical Problems: A more common problem was the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM), which acts as the command center for electrical functions in Fiat-Chrysler vehicles, can be problematic and lead to issues with various electrical components.
Oil Sludge in the 2.7L Engine: The 2.7L DaimlerChrysler engine was prone to developing oil sludge. This sticky substance coats the inside of the engine, retaining heat and putting strain on mechanical parts.
Interior Issues: Some owners reported interior accessory problems, including issues with the Uconnect infotainment system. Additionally, the active headrests occasionally deployed randomly.
Musty Smell from HVAC Vents: Some owners complained about a musty smell emanating from the HVAC vents.
Overall Pros And Cons Of An Older Chrysler 300
Older Chrysler 300 Pros
Cost savings: Clearly, older 300 models are generally more affordable compared to newer vehicles, provided potentially significant savings in upfront costs.
Depreciation: Since the vehicle has already experienced much of its depreciation, buyers won't incur as much loss in value compared to buying a newer car, resulting in a lower overall cost of ownership.
Availability of parts and aftermarket support: The Chrysler 300 has been a popular model, so finding replacement parts and aftermarket accessories should be relatively easy and affordable. This can help keep maintenance and repair costs manageable.
Comfort and features: The 300 is known for its spacious and comfortable interior, as well as its array of luxury features, even in older models. Amenities such as leather upholstery, heated seats, premium audio systems, and more can be enjoyed at a lower price point.
Potential reliability improvements: With older models, many common issues may have been addressed through recalls, service bulletins, or previous repairs. Researching the vehicle's maintenance history and ensuring proper upkeep can mitigate potential mechanical problems.
Powerful engine options: The 300 offers a range of powerful engine options, including V6 and V8 engines, providing strong performance.
Comfortable ride: With its smooth suspension and well-insulated cabin, the Chrysler 300 offered a comfortable and refined ride, making it suitable for long-distance cruising.
Gangster Aesthetics: The Chrysler 300 boasts a gangster-looking design. It doesn’t blend into the crowd like many other full-size cars; instead, it stands out with classic styling and a bold presence.
Solid Build Quality: Despite some cheap interior materials, the 300 feels like it was carved from a solid chunk of metal. Build quality is commendable.
Driving Modes: The 300’s driving modes allow you to tailor the experience. In “normal” mode, it’s a standard full-size car; switch to “sport” mode for quicker shifts and stiffer steering.
Small Turning Radius: Surprisingly, this big car has a small turning radius, making tight maneuvers easier than expected.
Quiet Ride: The 300 lives up to expectations in terms of quietness, a desirable trait for a full-size car.
Comfort for Larger Drivers: The wide front seats accommodate those with wider hips, ensuring a comfortable fit.
Older Chrysler 300 Cons
Higher maintenance and repair costs: While buying an older 300 may save money upfront, it comes at the risk of higher maintenance and repair costs compared to newer vehicles. As the vehicle ages, wear and tear on components may lead to more frequent repairs.
Fuel efficiency: Older 300 models, especially those equipped with larger engines, may have poorer fuel efficiency compared to newer, more fuel-efficient vehicles.
Outdated technology: Older 300 models may lack the latest technology and safety features found in newer vehicles. While this may not be a concern for some buyers, others may prefer more advanced infotainment systems, driver assistance features, and safety technologies.
Handling: While the Chrysler 300 offers a comfortable ride, its handling characteristics were not as sharp or sporty as some other vehicles in its class. It could feel somewhat ponderous around corners, and the steering might lack precision for some drivers.
Interior quality: Although the Chrysler 300 had a spacious and comfortable interior, the quality of materials used in the cabin was sometimes criticized for being less refined compared to rivals from luxury brands.
Limited visibility: The 300's thick roof pillars and high beltline could create blind spots, potentially hindering visibility, especially when maneuvering in tight spaces or changing lanes.
Not a Sports Car: While the V6 provides decent power, the 300 isn’t a true sports car. Light steering and lazy handling detract from its sportiness.
Dated Interior: The 300’s interior design can be described as dated. It lacks the modern flair found in some competitors.
Rough Ride with Larger Wheels: Opting for larger wheels and sport suspension can lead to a rough ride.